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# Punishes
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## Shenanigans
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=3830
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## Dealing with 5K Spam
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~~On 5K IB Elp 2P Can fit between 5K (therefore might need to try fuzzy IB > 2PP)~~
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Wrong.
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## Dealing with runup 6P / 5H
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Elp 2D works well to hit 6P, but Jam 5H will go over Elp 2D, which means death.
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Elp 5K works well to stop a running up Jam
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docs/Mu/Jam/Neutral.md
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# Neutral
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## 2D
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2D is very helpful to keep yourself in a fair distance.
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I believe that the right range to be used is at the tip of `Hyappo Shinshou`, where it should clash.
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This forces Jam to rely on more aggressive approaches, which is when you can score big rewards.
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Use 2D+footsies to discourage the use of:
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- 6P
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- 2K
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- 2D
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- Hochifu (parry)
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- Bakushuu (`236S > P`)
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- Hamonkyaku (`236S > K`)
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- Hyappo Shinshou (`236S > S`) -> Very likely to clash at tip range, beware of danger time and clash cancel. Might be useful to do OS `2D>[1PK]` to avoid clash surprises, which against `Hyappo Shinshou` occur a lot if properly positioned.
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### Doubting
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- f.S
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- 6H
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- 5K (if done spaced, since 2D has longer range, I think)
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- Senri Shinshou (`236S > H` or `236S > S > H`)
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## 2H
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I believe that can go under Ryuujin. **All the levels**.
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It's a mid, can be parried very easily, therefore play around 2D / shotgun.
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It's a lvl3 movie, maybe doing 2H(1) > berry pull can be helpful, as long they respect you, yet you are going to block most likely afterwards due Jam players being on cocaine or her buttons being fast (5P active at frame 3 bruh).
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## Shotgun
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### SG.S
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Sort of antiair, but, I haven't had much luck antiaring Jam with it due `j.H`.
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I believe that can go under Ryuujin, yet, no Idea on which levels can or cannot, and most importantly, if you by any chance finish your recovery and invuln frames haven't finished, you are going home with a counterhit in your face.
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### SG.H
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Shotgun.H can be useful to counterpoke, but it's important to use it as mostly preemptive distanced hitbox screen filler.
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Why? Wiffpunishing 2K / 2D / Hamonkyaku.
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Also, those motherfuckers will hit you if you use `SG.S`, and why would you approach when you can
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Could be useful as an antiair, but not feeling it as a consistent solution as you can get tricked by many ways:
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## f.S
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I don't like it.
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Feels like can get stuffed by too much shit (specially 2D), which results on you getting counterhit and Jam scoring a fullcombo.
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At that point I feel like would be using 2S, especially when 2S has less startup frames (8 vs 9), and is far more (5 vs 6). Still 2S has 2 more frames of recovery.
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## 2S
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I like it as an occasional anti rushdown, but since moves the hurtbox forward, if you get counterhit (which is not very hard), you will suffer the consequences, especially if it's by 6H or 6P.
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---
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gitea: none
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include_toc: true
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---
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# Neutral
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## 2D
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2D is very helpful to keep yourself in a fair distance.
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I believe that the right range to be used is at the tip of `Hyappo Shinshou`, where it should clash.
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This forces Jam to rely on more aggressive approaches, which is when you can score big rewards.
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Use 2D+footsies to discourage the use of:
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- 6P
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- 2K
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- 2D
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- Hochifu (parry)
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- Bakushuu (`236S > P`)
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- Hamonkyaku (`236S > K`)
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- Hyappo Shinshou (`236S > S`) -> Very likely to clash at tip range, beware of danger time and clash cancel. Might be useful to do OS `2D>[1PK]` to avoid clash surprises, which against `Hyappo Shinshou` occur a lot if properly positioned.
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### Doubting
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- f.S
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- 6H
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- 5K (if done spaced, since 2D has longer range, I think)
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- Senri Shinshou (`236S > H` or `236S > S > H`)
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## 2H
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I believe that can go under Ryuujin. **All the levels**.
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It's a mid, can be parried very easily, therefore play around 2D / shotgun.
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It's a lvl3 movie, maybe doing 2H(1) > berry pull can be helpful, as long they respect you, yet you are going to block most likely afterwards due Jam players being on cocaine or her buttons being fast (5P active at frame 3 bruh).
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## Shotgun
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### SG.S
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Sort of antiair, but, I haven't had much luck antiaring Jam with it due `j.H`.
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I believe that can go under Ryuujin, yet, no Idea on which levels can or cannot, and most importantly, if you by any chance finish your recovery and invuln frames haven't finished, you are going home with a counterhit in your face.
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### SG.H
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Shotgun.H can be useful to counterpoke, but it's important to use it as mostly preemptive distanced hitbox screen filler.
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Why? Wiffpunishing 2K / 2D / Hamonkyaku.
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Also, those motherfuckers will hit you if you use `SG.S`, and why would you approach when you can
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Could be useful as an antiair, but not feeling it as a consistent solution as you can get tricked by many ways:
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## f.S
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I don't like it.
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Feels like can get stuffed by too much shit (specially 2D), which results on you getting counterhit and Jam scoring a fullcombo.
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At that point I feel like would be using 2S, especially when 2S has less startup frames (8 vs 9), and is far more (5 vs 6). Still 2S has 2 more frames of recovery.
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## 2S
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I like it as an occasional anti rushdown, but since moves the hurtbox forward, if you get counterhit (which is not very hard), you will suffer the consequences, especially if it's by 6H or 6P.
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# Oki
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Wakup Jam Options:
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## DP:
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### lvl 1
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Invuln frames: 1-6F All
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Properly spaced 2D hits her out of DP, or whiffs, and you punish the DP.
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### lvl 2
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Invuln frames: 1-13F All
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Properly spaced 2D clashes. Maybe do `Fuzzy 2D > 1FD` and proceed from here.
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On landing has 1-3 frames of crouch landing recovery.
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Punish options:
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5D
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### lvl 3
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Invuln frames: 1-13F All
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Properly spaced 2D whiffs and you punish the DP.
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# Punishes
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## Gekirin (ground)
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> She's crouching state while recovering.
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> Beware that can cancel into the another followups.
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lvl 1: -13.
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lvl 2: -6, 2k/2P/c.S > stuff.
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lvl 3: -1, Burst Judge Better half, I think.
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## Ryujin (ground)
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I think that you just crouch and wait for the active frames to finish so you don't get in blockstun status, and Jam is not allowed to do any followup, since could crush you.
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# Anti parry propaganda
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https://youtu.be/QmZ-7TxyQmI?t=6308
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Shotgun.H > throw berry > Shotgun spacing to avoid parry P > SG.H
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## Pressure
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=1780
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=3639
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## Shenanigans
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=3830
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### 5K Spam
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~~On 5K IB Elp 2P Can fit between 5K (therefore might need to try fuzzy IB > 2PP)~~
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Wrong.
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### Runup 6P / 5H
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Elp 2D works well to hit 6P, but Jam 5H will go over Elp 2D, which means death.
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Elp 5K works well to stop a running up Jam
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## Wakeup DP
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## ToSort
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```
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after 2D/f.S jam IADs
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after 2D/f.S/5H/2H/6H jam special cancels
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5K is +2
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Chicken block if jam carded overhead
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IB 2D and mash 4F or jump out if you can manage to find where jam uses her 2D
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Splitkick > Delay > Ryujin YRC is a reset. You can hit jam out of it. Splitkick > No delay Ryujin is a frametrap, you will take some damage.
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Splitkick is -15 on block
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2D/f.S>earliest Splitkick is a 2F gap frametrap
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6H>earliest Splitkick is a gapless "don't fucking stand or jump" option
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2D/f.S> Puffball is 12f gap
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6H > Puffball is 7f gap
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Puffball is +1 unless very close jam tends to use a 6f option after puffball
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2nd puffball is +3 (It is possible to backdash it on reaction, it has 1f active)
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Super puffball is +3 unless IB'd. Ib it for free meter and stop mashing throw on wakeup, it's throw invul and used to bait wakeup throw.
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Badly spaced j2k (that is a j.2k that hits too high/deep) can be thrown ON HIT as a punish, though sometimes jam can RPS with DP since DP is throw invul
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MAX Ryujin is a loaded gun. Please be careful when she has this.
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Backdash tends to be good against Jam midscreen and even in the corner if you have a good backdash
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```
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## KNE
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SG.H somewhat spaced is a nightmare for Jam.
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It feels like the sweet spot is slightly at the end of Jam's 2S, since it means that if she wants to press doesn't have a fast reaching low (aka, you can hold the OS block) and she can't jump for free because SG.H still will chatch her.
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https://fireshare.fihome.xyz/w/b1fb7d7baf9a1fe6c07327891379ba3e
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docs/Mu/Jam/Oki.md
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# Oki
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Wakup Jam Options:
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## DP:
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### lvl 1
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Invuln frames: 1-6F All
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Properly spaced 2D hits her out of DP, or whiffs, and you punish the DP.
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### lvl 2
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Invuln frames: 1-13F All
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Properly spaced 2D clashes. Maybe do `Fuzzy 2D > 1FD` and proceed from here.
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On landing has 1-3 frames of crouch landing recovery.
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Punish options:
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5D
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### lvl 3
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Invuln frames: 1-13F All
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Properly spaced 2D whiffs and you punish the DP.
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## Anti parry propaganda
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https://youtu.be/QmZ-7TxyQmI?t=6308
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Shotgun.H > throw berry > Shotgun spacing to avoid parry P > SG.H
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docs/Mu/Jam/Pressure.md
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# Pressure
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=1780
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https://youtu.be/OCo__pJJenE?t=3639
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## Shotgun Spacing
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SG.H somewhat spaced is a nightmare for Jam.
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It feels like the sweet spot is slightly at the end of Jam's 2S, since it means that if she wants to press doesn't have a fast reaching low (aka, you can hold the OS block) and she can't jump for free because SG.H still will catch her.
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https://fireshare.fihome.xyz/w/b1fb7d7baf9a1fe6c07327891379ba3e
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docs/Mu/Jam/Punishes/Gekirin.md
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# Gekirin (ground)
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> She's crouching state while recovering.
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> Beware that can cancel into the another followups.
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lvl 1: -13.
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lvl 2: -6, 2k/2P/c.S > stuff.
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lvl 3: -1, Burst Judge Better half, I think.
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# Ryujin (ground)
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I think that you just crouch and wait for the active frames to finish so you don't get in blockstun status, and Jam is not allowed to do any followup, since could crush you.
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## ToSort
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```
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after 2D/f.S jam IADs
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after 2D/f.S/5H/2H/6H jam special cancels
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5K is +2
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Chicken block if jam carded overhead
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IB 2D and mash 4F or jump out if you can manage to find where jam uses her 2D
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Splitkick > Delay > Ryujin YRC is a reset. You can hit jam out of it. Splitkick > No delay Ryujin is a frametrap, you will take some damage.
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Splitkick is -15 on block
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2D/f.S>earliest Splitkick is a 2F gap frametrap
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6H>earliest Splitkick is a gapless "don't fucking stand or jump" option
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2D/f.S> Puffball is 12f gap
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6H > Puffball is 7f gap
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Puffball is +1 unless very close jam tends to use a 6f option after puffball
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2nd puffball is +3 (It is possible to backdash it on reaction, it has 1f active)
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Super puffball is +3 unless IB'd. Ib it for free meter and stop mashing throw on wakeup, it's throw invul and used to bait wakeup throw.
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Badly spaced j2k (that is a j.2k that hits too high/deep) can be thrown ON HIT as a punish, though sometimes jam can RPS with DP since DP is throw invul
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MAX Ryujin is a loaded gun. Please be careful when she has this.
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Backdash tends to be good against Jam midscreen and even in the corner if you have a good backdash
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```
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