Checked on all characters

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TODO (sorting/doing all characters)
| Character | f-shiki j.Toss > j.S RRC (75% meter) | f-shiki j.Toss > j.S > j.H comboes | j.Toss > j.S > j.H (hit) fshiki | |
|----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------|------------------------------------|---------------------------------|--------------------------|
| [Venom](https://youtu.be/3bAQvK3YYP8) | [x] | [x] | [ ] | |
| [Axl](https://youtu.be/u9e8wTQ0rvE) | [x] | [x] | [ ] | |
| [Ky](https://youtu.be/uAm_jtrcPak) | [x] | [x] | [ ] | |
| [Sol](https://youtu.be/6lpuSnlt074) | [x] | [ ] | [x] | |
| [Johnny](https://youtu.be/QQXKsuaRQ9k) | [x] | [x] | [x] | |
| [Slayer](https://youtu.be/Gc1m62vkt9Y) | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| Raven | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | Doesn't work |
| May | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | More annoying than usual |
| Jam | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | TODO |
| Character | f-shiki j.Toss > 9j.S RRC (75% meter) | f-shiki j.Toss > 9j.H RRC (75% meter) | does j9.S > j.H fshiki? | f-shiki does 9j.S combo into j.H | Notes |
|---------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------|----------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| [Sol](https://youtu.be/9bI1-3oOvnc) | [x] | [ ] | [x] | [ ] | |
| [Ky](https://youtu.be/Cs9ns3ToIsQ) | [x] | [x] **8**j.H | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [May](https://youtu.be/mw7pALOf0Bw) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | May feels a lot tighter than other chars. Very limited options, even with meter. Due to her low height I don't think it's possible to do `j.Toss > Land > RC > j.S/H`. |
| [Millia](https://youtu.be/wcl29Qe39bA) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [Zato](https://youtu.be/7E8X5XKEKDw) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | |
| [Potemkin](https://youtu.be/cvQuDxR3-ok) | [x] | [x] | [ ] | [x] | Slightly annoying due to pushback |
| [Chipp](https://youtu.be/bQeCDskWYxk) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | |
| [Faust](https://youtu.be/ERcEPW-KJew) | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | DOESN'T WORK. Idk which "alternatives" will work other than IAD j.KSH, but that's spending 75% meter for something reactable... |
| [Axl](https://youtu.be/hdoZlnnTzOw) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | Instead of `Toss > Land > j.9H RC` we can do `j.Toss > Land > RC > 8j.H` (**Not 9j.H**) and will combo into Berry on fshiki. |
| [Venom](https://youtu.be/YDL20z_TNCY) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | Instead of `Toss > Land > j.9H RC` we can do `j.Toss > Land > RC > 8/9j.H` and will combo into Berry on fshiki. |
| [Slayer](https://youtu.be/RUPKMyqJQvA) | [x] | [ ] | [x] | [x] | |
| [I-no](https://youtu.be/CgERK68tEss) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [Bedman](https://youtu.be/0raviGdu4f8) | [x] * j.Toss needs to be delayed. | [ ] | [x] * j.Toss needs to be delayed. | [ ] | We can do `j.Toss > Land > RC > Runup > 9j.S` and will combo into Berry on fshiki. The runup is very important. j.H won't work. |
| [Ramlethal](https://youtu.be/UwfcbA_Ynso) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | We can do `j.Toss > Land > RC > Runup > 9j.S` or `j.Toss > Land > RC > 8/9j.H` and will combo into Berry on fshiki. |
| [Sin](https://youtu.be/xK3oNA5vg0s) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [Elphelt](https://youtu.be/ODmo-D60Xh8) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [Leo](https://youtu.be/Y8gydFEcKu8) | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | DOESN'T WORK. Idk which "alternatives" will work other than IAD j.KSH, but that's spending 75% meter for something reactable... |
| [Johnny](https://youtu.be/ytpjq2gEnb8) | [x] | [ ] | [x] | [x] | |
| [Jack-O](https://youtu.be/iLAQUA9R0T8) | [x] | [ ] | [x] | [ ] | |
| [Jam](https://youtu.be/oblndtxxHog) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | We can do `j.Toss > RC > Land > 9j.H/S` |
| [Kum Haehyun](https://youtu.be/93eQGc8DI44) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [x] | |
| [Raven](https://youtu.be/CV-Ee-B-cmQ) | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | DOESN'T WORK. Idk which "alternatives" will work other than IAD j.KSH, but that's spending 75% meter for something reactable... |
| [Dizzy](https://youtu.be/flQm6P59Zls) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | |
| [Baiken](https://youtu.be/MF69Y1Vx9hI) | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | DOESN'T WORK. Idk which "alternatives" will work other than IAD j.KSH, but that's spending 75% meter for something reactable... |
| [Answer](https://youtu.be/XhcDiEEr_Dw) | [x] | [ ] | [ ] | [ ] | We can do `j.Toss > Land > dl. RC > > 9j.S` or `j.Toss > Land > dl. RC > 8/9j.H` and will combo into Berry on fshiki. Note that we first gotta land then slight delayed RC |
### quick notes
[//]: # (!!! info "Why testing `Autopilot j.K > j.S fshiki`?")
[//]: # ()
[//]: # ( In case some character has some weird hitstun animation or something idk.)
will eventually take a look at what's there.
```text
may feels a lot tighter than other chars.
millia also annoying.
!! warning "IAD j.KS > jToss > Land > RC"
Faust doesn't work (too low, no j.P/j.S/j.H)
When going for IAD j.KS > jToss > Land > RC. It's important to slightly delay either tossing (better), or RC, so the berry its located at a lower height. This helps with consistency on characters with smaller hurtbox (normally/during hitstun), such as Millia or Answer.
venom j.S > j.H won't work on blockstring, but if j.S hits there is no need to RC
!!! danger "9j.S vs 9j.H"
In some characters besides of 9j.S, 9j.H can also hit/fshiki the opponent, yet it would still force us to use RC to get something out of it (aka chain with berry).
axl j.S > j.H won't work on blockstring, but if j.S hits there is no need to RC
```
Can technically be used to mix timings, but it's substantially slower therefore more reactable.
!!! info "If 9j.S combos into j.H, you can autopilot any standing hit into that routing without need of confirming."
### Other notes
Todo/Toexplore
After j.Toss (if blocked), landing > 6H is a true blockstring.
After j.Toss (if blocked), landing > 6H > Bridal is a true blockstring that leaves us substantially plus. (need to check the numbers)